せんすぶろぐ
将棋、歴史のオタクです。他の一般の話題についても折をみて触れていくつもりです。

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FROM:Rocky-and-Hopper [HOME] 2006/04/11 22:17:34
「動くサンプル」のことですかね?
A級5回戦の羽生vs谷川の棋譜が、
Kifu for JAVAで見られました。
一応、コメント付きで、初手から投了まで。

FROM:Rocky-and-Hopper  2006/04/11 22:46:48
すみません、本物の動画ですね。

ブラウザやセキュリティによってはひっかかるそうです。
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URL直打ちなら見られるかも。

FROM:D  2006/04/12 3:12:15
なにがなんやら。
以下64角、歩成り同角18飛?
距離感がアマではムリですね。
明日は、会員になる予算払って
ライブでみようかな〜

FROM:Beaver  2006/04/12 12:31:47
9筋の端歩の付き合いがあれば、順位戦の佐藤−羽生も同じでこの時は▲77銀でした。
その後も△54銀▲75歩△65歩▲34歩・・・と進み、後手の羽生勝ちですが、感想によれば、途中△64角に対して▲97角と打つ手があり、先手が指せるのではないかとのこと。(その後の王将戦で羽生王将が手を変えたことを思うとこの結論の信憑性は高い)
この将棋は9筋付き合ってないので、この変化はないのが微妙なところ。
私見では、この早繰銀が一手損対策の最有力で、この変化で後手がつらいという結論めいたものが出て一手損はそのうち廃れるのではないかと思っています。

FROM:Beaver  2006/04/12 12:33:37
訂正
「△54銀▲75歩・・・」
△54銀ではなく△85歩です。

FROM:Beaver  2006/04/12 12:37:03
私も封じ手直前の▲74歩はかなり強引(△64角だとどうするの?)と思ったのですが、昼食休憩の局面はどちらかと言えば、先手持ちです。持ち歩の差が大きいように思います。

FROM:Beaver  2006/04/13 10:52:21
うーん、森内名人ってとてつもなく強いのかも知れない。(名人なのだから当たり前と言えるが)
あの、歩切れの局面で「指せる」との判断はまさに名人に定跡なし。
第1局を見ていて「矛盾」の故事を思い出しました。最強の盾が最強の矛をはじき返した一戦でした。

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